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Goodbye Goodreads

My Decision on the Goodreads Debacle

I’ve been pretty torn with the Goodreads problem, since there are features on it that are useful to me and don’t seem to exist on any other site yet. However, given Goodreads’ lack of response to user protest, it seems we must put our money where our mouth is, so to speak. If Goodreads doesn’t believe users will actually leave and take their books with them, then they won’t do anything. To that end, I’ve exported my books, deleted them from Goodreads and will patiently wait for BookLikes to finish importing (BookLikes says on their blog that the queue time will be shorter than the estimates btw). LibraryThing has a nice group feature and they have improved their user interface, so I’ll be poking around there as well.

While it’s entirely possible that BookLikes will pull the rug out from under us someday as well, I am happy to see this in their current policy: No text, review or any other post will be removed from personal webpage. They seem to be very happy to be considered the alternative to Goodreads in this regard. Hopefully they’ll add the functions that we are still looking for; I’ve heard a rumor that they are going to be announcing new functionality every Thursday, including an app this week *crosses fingers*.

So if you’d like to find my reviews somewhere besides on this here blog, here’s where to look:

OnStarshipsandDragonwings.booklikes.com

Anya on LibraryThing

Until everything is done importing, I’ll go back to keeping a spreadsheet of the books I’m reading etc, it’s not quite as fun, but it’ll work ;-).

Anya from On Starships and Dragonwings

-Anya

© 2013, Anya. All rights reserved.

Comments

  1. There are so many things they did badly here. I’m not deleting my account – not yet, anyway – but I’m done posting my reviews there, I’m done contributing as a librarian. From now on, I’ll be using the bare-bones features of the site so that I can stay connected with my friends there who aren’t on LT or BL.

    I just can’t help wondering what’s next…
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    • Yup, I deleted book reviews but not my account since I have a couple of book groups there that I still want to chat in. I figure that if I’m not contributing to their review database, that is as firm a statement as I can make! I’m sad since I just became a librarian and was excited to contribute more *sigh* I’m hoping BookLikes starts doing the librarian thing since I want to fix their database sooooo bad.

  2. I seem to be one of the only people I know who is not up in arms about this Goodreads fiasco. Maybe because I don’t feel like it is going to impact me. I’m upset as well that they are going to be the deciding factor on whether a shelf titles “Authors I’m avoiding” means its because you just don’t like the books or because of Author behavior. That is definitely unfair. I agree with certain things about the policy but not the overall thing and how they’ve handled it. I don’t like drama mongering and author or reviewer flamers. I’m sad that you’ll be going. I may check out one of the other sites but I’m not going to delete my goodreads account because I still love it there.
    Pabkins recently posted…Review: Frozen by Melissa de la Cruz & Michael JohnstonMy Profile

    • I found a discussion post that phrased my feelings very well, while the policy on the surface is only mildly icky, the way they implemented it made it seem very much like they were using it to target specific users’ content. They didn’t delete positive shelves, they haven’t deleted all author related shelves, and they are saying that it’s how they think the user means it to be used, ie they can be completely arbitrary in what they delete :-/

  3. Jenn @ A Glo-Worm Reads says:

    I have made a BL account and have transferred all my books over but will be keeping GR as a main for now because I like it just a little bit more. BL is still confusing for me, but I will have it as a back up if things start getting worse.
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    • Good idea! I’m thinking I’ll make a guide to BL post after I’ve messed with it a bit more, since I think there is a lot of potential, but it’s different enough that some things aren’t obvious

  4. You know, what I find interesting is that BookLikes is also owned by Amazon, so I’m actually kind of surprised that so many people are jumping ship from GR and moving over to BL. I realize that it’s the most similar to GR, but still. I just makes me wonder, what’s stopping them from implementing the same policies on BL at some point? Or are some of these things an actual struggle between what the people who GR want vs. what Amazon wants, and that’s why BookLikes exists now? And part of me suspects that this was all a ploy to get people to migrate from GR to BL, to get more people (active, well-known people) using BookLikes instead.

    At any rate… I have an account on both sites, but for now I’m keeping GR as my main. It’s just what I’m used to and I like it better than BL. But I am sad that so many of my blogging friends are leaving GR. One of the main things I like about GR is that I can look at a book and see how all of my friends have rated and reviewed it. Now this won’t be as easy. =/
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    • Hmmm, my googling can’t find info about BookLikes being owned by Amazon, and they have made posts stating that they will never delete user content since they have decided that user’s own that content. They are also aligned with Kobo, so it seems strange that they would be owned by Amazon…. Are you thinking of LibraryThing since Amazon does have a small share of LibraryThing?

      In any case, Booklikes policy is that they won’t even delete content that is declared offensive, just hide it from users that don’t want to see it. Obviously policies can change, but right now BookLikes seem to be distancing itself from Goodreads policies very explicitly.

      • Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm… I could have sworn that when I first learned about BookLikes, there was some announcement about it being owned by Amazon. And I wasn’t surprised, because it looks and feels like a combination of Goodreads and Shelfari, Amazon’s original attempt at a GR-like website. I feel like it wanted to connect to my Amazon account or something? I don’t know anymore! Guess I was mistaken.
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  5. Personally, I have no problem with GoodReads. They’ve actually screwed me over less than other similar sites, and have a better user interface and discussion zone than anything else I’ve come across. It also has greater visibility than any other sites; the one that comes closest is LibraryThing, and they promised me something and didn’t deliver, so I’m not happy with them and don’t feel like promoting them.

    And I also don’t see what GoodReads has done recently as censorship so much as moderation. It’s cutting down on potential trash-talking shitstorms on both sides, and frankly, I don’t see that as a bad thing. It’s not like they’re going around and deleting every 1-star review and deleting users who dislike certain authors. They’re removing stuff that they feel is unjust and offensive, and I, for one, and pretty happy with that. So they’ll be keeping me as a user for quite some time to come.

    But that’s just my opinion on the matter, and I’m not going to begrudge people the chance to be in a place where they feel more comfortable.
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    • What happened with LibraryThing?

      Basically for me it comes down to a disagreement about what information is relevant to a reader. I do decide whether to read a book based on author behavior and I want to have that information available to me. I don’t approve of Goodreads deleting user content without notifying them before hand on principle. I want to be on a site where I have all that information available to me, everything that a blogger thinks might be relevant to my decision.

  6. Alas, Amazon will eventually eat Booklikes and LibraryThing, although I hope not.
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  7. Yeah, the entire 1984-ish response to deleting shelves is enough to let me know I am not welcome.

  8. Lianne @ caffeinatedlife.net says:

    I’m still sticking around GR for now (my LT account is a bit of a mess after my import months ago–irking the perfectionist in me, lol) but what GR has become with all of these changes is making me sad *shrugs*

    Adding you on LT and Booklikes (how are you finding BL? Still getting used to the interface tbh)
    Lianne @ caffeinatedlife.net recently posted…Review: Journey into the Heart of God – Living the Liturgical YearMy Profile

    • Booklikes is pretty but they were obviously not planning on being the new Goodreads. It sounds like they are very receptive to that role, however, and are going to be working hard to make GR refugees feel more comfortable. I’m going to wait and see ;-)

  9. Yeah, when I started my import from my goodreads list it said it would take 2100 hours or more it is down to 1400ish and not been going on that long so it really does not take as long as the estimated time frame.
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    • Yup, I think that they are adding computing power as fast as they can and want the estimates to be too high instead of too low

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